Watching Marlie Packer on a rugby pitch, it is easy to make a quick character assessment: confrontational, aggressive and all too happy to rile up her opposition.
Jumping to such speedy conclusions means missing out on the many nuances that form the true picture.
The 32-year-old flanker is a vocal and energetic presence in England’s forwards, racking up statistics that have helped her take player of the match in two of the Red Roses’ four Women’s Six Nations wins so far.
But away from the pitch, she says there is a more gentle side that people do not see.
Packer talks with pride about her role in the growth of English women’s rugby, which has welcomed record crowds in recent weeks.
She also supports younger players like 20-year-old flanker Sadia Kabeya to ensure that development continues.
Away from rugby, the back row also only needs the slightest prompt to happily discuss her 19-month-old son Oliver.
“Not many people do really know me,” she tells BBC Sport.
“My switch between rugby and Marlie off the pitch is very different. I am probably a lot softer than what a lot of people would say I am and I’ve got a very caring nature.
“Marlie on the pitch – the switch gets switched and I can turn that on and off very easily.”